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The               ignorance               of               Americans               on               their               own               history               and               constitution               has               never               been               clearer,               than               on               the               issue               of               separation               of               church               and               state.

The               phrase               originally               cited               in               a               letter               from               Thomas               Jefferson               to               the               Danberry               Connecticut               Baptists,               soon               after               Jefferson               had               become               president               on               March               4th               1801.

Many               Americans               believe               that               this               nation               was               founded               a               strictly               secular               state.

Many               actually               believe               they               are               patriotically               upholding               the               founder's               vision               by               making               sure               religion               is               completely               removed               from               all               public               life.

Groups               such               as               the               ACLU               and               Americans               United               for               The               Separation               of               Church               and               State               routinely               file               suits               in               court               to               intimidate               and               silence               any               religious               voice               in               American               public               life.

Cases               are               promoted               to               prevent               nativity               scenes,               the               Ten               Commandments,               Crosses               from               being               displayed               in               public               areas.

Other               cases               promote               denying               the               Boy               Scouts               use               of               government               facilities,               removal               of               ("In               God               We               Trust")               on               currency,               censoring               of               school               graduation               and               athletic               event               prayers,               firing               schoolteachers               for               leaving               bibles               on               their               desk.
               At               the               same               time,               these               groups               turn               a               blind               eye               to               the               promotion               of               other               religions,               such               as               providing               prayer               rooms               for               Muslim               students               in               public               schools               or               school               sponsored               field               trips               to               mosques,               soliciting               students               to               participate               in               Muslim               religious               rites               as               an               educational               experience.

Public               schools               also               promote               new               age               religious               ideas               and               forms               of               witchcraft               as               enlightened               ideas,               while               Christianity               is               presented               as               part               of               our               past               ignorance,               intolerance               and               bigotry.
               Many               who               use               the               term               "Separation               of               Church               and               State"               would               be               surprised               to               discover               that               it's               nowhere               to               be               found               in               the               Constitution.

The               phrase               was               taken               from               a               political               letter               written               by               Jefferson               to               the               Connecticut               Baptists               assuring               them               of               their               concerns               about               religious               liberty.

The               Baptists               in               Connecticut               had               long               been               a               minority               in               an               area               dominated               by               Federalist               Congregationalists,               and               Jefferson               wanted               to               assure               them               that               the               federal               government               would               not               interfere               in               showing               preference               to               any               Christian               denomination               above               another.

England               and               most               of               Europe               had               oppressed               Christian               minorities               for               hundreds               of               years,               by               mandating               a               single               state               Christian               denomination.

In               England               the               Anglican               Church               was               the               state               mandated               church,               all               other               Christian               sects               or               denominations               were               prohibited.
               Years               after               writing               the               Letter               to               the               Danbury               Baptists,               Jefferson               himself               regularly               attended               worship               services               conducted               in               the               Capital               building               with               government               paid               chaplains.

He               also               arranged               for               similar               services               to               be               conducted               in               the               War               Office               and               Treasury               building               both               belonging               to               the               executive               branch               of               government.

In               1803               Jefferson               used               federal               funds               to               erect               churches               and               promote               Christianity               among               the               Indians               and               provided               government               support               for               Christian               schools.

The               evidence               for               the               Christian               foundation               for               America's               society               and               government               is               so               overwhelming               that               it's               difficult               to               comprehend               how               this               could               be               misunderstood               by               so               many.
               George               Washington,               in               his               Farewell               address               to               the               nation               said               this               "It               is               impossible               to               govern               the               world               without               God               and               the               Bible.

Of               all               the               dispositions               and               habits               that               lead               to               political               prosperity,               our               religion               and               morality               are               the               indispensable               supporters.

Let               us               with               caution               indulge               the               supposition               that               morality               can               be               maintained               without               religion.

Reason               and               experience               both               forbid               us               to               expect               that               our               national               morality               can               prevail               in               exclusion               of               religious               principle."
               Thomas               Jefferson               said               this,               "The               practice               of               morality               being               necessary               for               the               well               being               of               society,               He               (God)               has               taken               care               to               impress               its               precepts               so               indelibly               on               our               hearts               that               they               shall               not               be               effaced               by               the               subtleties               of               our               brain.

We               all               agree               in               the               obligation               of               the               moral               principles               of               Jesus               and               nowhere               will               they               be               found               delivered               in               greater               purity               than               in               His               discourses."
               James               Madison,               the               4th               US               president,               father               of               the               bill               of               rights,               said               this               "I               have               sometimes               thought               there               could               not               be               a               stronger               testimony               in               favor               of               religion               or               against               temporal               enjoyments,               even               the               most               rational               and               manly,               than               for               men               who               occupy               the               most               honorable               and               gainful               departments               and               [who]               are               rising               in               reputation               and               wealth,               publicly               to               declare               their               unsatisfactoriness               by               becoming               fervent               advocates               in               the               cause               of               Christ;               and               I               wish               you               may               give               in               your               evidence               in               this               way."
               John               Jay               America's               first               chief               justice               of               the               Supreme               Court               said               this               in               1797,               two               years               after               serving               his               term,               "Providence               has               given               to               our               people               the               choice               of               their               rulers,               and               it               is               the               duty               as               well               as               the               privilege               and               interest               of               our               Christian               nation,               to               select               and               prefer               Christians               for               their               rulers."
               Jefferson's               Wall               of               separation               of               church               and               state               only               placed               limits               on               the               power               of               the               federal               government               to               interfere               in               matters               of               religion.

The               wall               was               intended               to               separate               the               institutions               of               church               and               state               at               the               federal               level               not               to               separate               religion               from               the               civil               government.

Matters               of               religion               were               to               rest               with               individual               State               and               local               governments               and               the               people.
               During               the               time               period               of               the               ratification               of               the               first               amendment,               all               state               constitutions               with               the               exception               of               Rhode               Island,               had               a               state               sponsored               religion.

The               states               would               never               ratified               the               first               amendment               if               they               believed               it               would               override               the               states               right               to               sponsor               their               own               Christian               denomination.

The               First               Amendment               was               only               proposed               to               place               limitations               on               the               government               and               not               on               religion.

The               freedom               of               the               press,               guaranteed               in               the               first               amendment,               only               places               restrictions               of               the               government               to               control               the               media               not               to               protect               the               government               from               the               press.

In               this               way               the               press               would               be               free               and               independent               of               the               government.

The               same               was               purposed               for               the               freedom               of               religion,               government               was               never               to               be               protected               from               religious               influence,               churches               and               individuals               were               to               be               protected               from               the               federal               governments               imposition               of               a               national               Christian               denomination.
               Jefferson               affirmed               on               many               occasions               that               the               federal               government               had               no               power               over               religious               rights               or               the               free               exercise               of               religion.

Jefferson               said               this               at               his               second               inaugural               address               in               1805,"In               matters               of               religion,               I               have               considered               that               its               free               exercise               is               placed               by               the               Constitution               independent               of               the               powers               of               the               general               (federal)               government."
               So               where               did               this               distorted               idea               of               separating               religion               from               public               originate?

In               the               1830's               and               40's               a               new               influx               of               Catholic               immigrants               caused               much               concern               to               the               established               Protestant               majority.

Groups               such               as               the               Know               Nothings               and               later               the               Ku               Klux               Klan               advocated               separatism               to               prevent               Catholic               influence               in               public               life.
               In               the               late               1940's               and               beyond               many               felt               Catholic               parochial               schools               posed               a               threat               to               public               schools,               protestant               majorities               and               democratic               principles               says               Professor               Daniel               L.Dreisbach               in               his               Article               "The               Mythical               Wall               of               Separation:               How               a               Misused               Metaphor               Changed               Church-State               Law,               Policy,               and               Discourse".

Dreisbach               further               stated,               that               the               ACLU,               anti-Catholics               elites               such               as               Hugo               Black,               Protestants               and               others               for               the               separation               of               church               and               state,               prevailed               upon               the               courts               to               secularize               the               state.

The               1947               case               of               Everson               v.

Board               of               Education               extended               the               exclusion               of               aid               to               religion               to               federal               and               state               governments.

No               previous               court               had               interpreted               Jefferson's               phrase               to               imply               that               the               state               was               to               be               free               any               religious               influence.
               In               the               1930's               Hitler               recognized               that               the               only               institution               that               stood               in               the               way               his               plans               was               the               church.

So               Hitler               promoted               his               propaganda               with               slogans               such               as               "Politics               do               not               belong               in               the               Church."               And               "The               Church               must               be               separate               from               the               State",               says               Bryan               Fischer               in               his               article               "Separation               of               Church               and               State:               Straight               from               the               Mind               of               Hitler"               quoting               Professor               John               Conway's               book               "The               Nazi               persecution               of               the               Churches               1933-45".

The               former               Soviet               Union               also               enforced               a               strict               separation               of               church               and               state               only               allowing               the               influence               of               the               church               to               remain               within               its               four               walls.

These               phrases               are               virtually               identical               to               those               promoted               by               the               ACLU               and               Americans               United               for               the               Separation               of               Church               and               State.

In               December               1934,               Hitler               said               this               in               a               campaign               speech,               "But               we               will               ensure               the               purging               from               our               public               life               of               all               those               priests               who               have               mistaken               their               profession               and               who               ought               to               have               been               politicians               and               not               pastors",               noted               Bryan               Fischer               in               his               above               mentioned               article.

Hitler's               objectives               here               are               virtually               identical               with               those               of               the               ACLU.
               The               idea               of               separating               religion               from               all               civil               government               would               have               alarmed               Jefferson               and               the               founding               fathers               that               clearly               understood               that               the               general               principles               of               Christianity               must               have               the               encouragement               and               support               of               the               state.

They               knew               that               without               a               Christian               foundation               and               people,               their               republic               would               not               survive.

They               understood               that               the               source               of               our               inalienable               rights               and               freedom               came               Jesus               himself               and               that               Christianity               was               at               the               foundation               of               our               American               government               and               society.






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      Glenn Beck On James Madison–The Father Of The United States Constitution–Videos....” ~James Madison Background Articles...
    6. ibloga.blogspot.com/   07/17/2009
      ...Packet Wednesday, January 30, 1788 [James Madison] To the People of the State of New York: HAVING...; but briefly stated as they are here, they...
    7. voice-of-deseret.blogspot.com/   12/06/2008
      ... Villanova team 31-27. At 12-1, James Madison will be no pushover for Montana. Not ... is controversial Weber State player Bryant Eteuati. After getting into...
    8. icestationtango.blogspot.com/   10/01/2006
      ... and Other Writings of James Madison , Volume IV, page 491). Pretty inspirational, take... of fraud, growing out of a state of war, and in the degeneracy of manner and...
    9. jerrystwocentsofreason.blogspot.com/   05/08/2006
      ... fathers that support the separation of church and state as it is in the Constitution, James Madison is after all the man who authored the first amendment...
    10. judicialmisconduct.blogspot.com/   09/10/2007
      ...accident. It is part of a constitutional plan to make the exercise of state power more difficult. "Ambition," as James Madison said, "must be made to counteract ambition." This design has...
    11. James Madison State - Blog Homepage Results

      ...voluntary associations, and . . . the State should be abolished." —Benjamin Tucker...in the next place oblige it to control itself." —James Madison "Fat chance." —Sheldon Richman
      ...newspaper, the Daily Advertiser, the article was signed Publius, a pseudonym for James Madison. The essay began "To the People of the State of New York" and discusses the impact of factions. The essay…
      Gleaves Whitney, a presidential historian, is the director of the Hauenstein Center for Presidential Studies at Grand Valley State University.



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